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From an email from Grant F Edwards:
Mary Bentall's second husband, who survived her, was James John William Law, who married her sometime after her first husband, Thomas William Emery, died in an accident at the age of 39 in August 1889. I don't know when Mary Bentall married her second husband. At some point she moved from Bethnal Green to Walthamstow and ran a corner shop. That may have been in the late 1890s. She was certainly married to James Law some of the time she was in Walthamstow, i.e. she didn't marry him while in retirement in Joy Lane, Whitstable. My guess is that she probably married James Law sometime in the early 1900s - but that's only a guess. I don't know what happened to James Law after Mary died in 1932.
Is it possible that James Law was a widow, as most Widows seem to marry people who are also widows??
From an email from Grant F Edwards - 15 March 2002
Dear Brian,
Your vast store of information has added a number of names to my own family tree, for which I'm very grateful.
Your Mary Bentall (5167) was my great-grandmother, so there is a whole line of my own ancestors in your tree stretching back from that point.
The least I can do is to add a few extra details for you in return for what I have gleaned this evening.
Mary Bentall (5167) married my great-grandfather Thomas William Emery, a warehouseman, at the Church of St Jude's, Bethnal Green, on October 5, 1871. There were six children, William (c.1872), Agnes Mary (2.6.1877), Arthur (c. 1880), Robert Joseph (5.11.1883) who emigrated to Canada, Minnie (c. 1885) and Elizabeth Maud (30.1.1887).
Agnes Mary is my paternal grandmother. She married Charles Henry Edwards at St Mary's Church, Walthamstow, on October 22, 1898. She had six children, including my father.
Mary Bentall's husband Thomas William Emery died in Bethnal Green in August 1889 after an accident. Mary then married a James John William Law (marriage date unknown) and died at 12 Middle Wall, Whitstable, Kent, on 17.11.1932.
Her father, Daniel Bentall (883), died at Causeway End, Felsted, of a cerebral haemorrhage on 15.1.1909.
I have the death certificates for all three of the deaths mentioned.
I won't add any more information at this point, as it is probably peripheral to your own family tree studies, but I'll be glad to give you any more facts that might be of interest if you want them.
Kind regards
Grant Edwards, Epping, EssexAnother Email from Grant:
I found the site by typing in the words Bentall and Felsted togoether on the
Google search engine - it's amazing how much family history you can find by
entering surnames, especially relatively unusual ones, in combination with a
placename.
By the way, although my great-grandmother Mary Bentall is shown in your tree
as being born at Workhouse, Felsted, it was by then known as "The Old
Workhouse" and was a private home. She continued to live there during her
early childhood.
Another minor point - Mary's sister is shown as Clara or Celia Bentall. I
expect the handwriting in the register was illegible. Actually, her name was
Clara.
She married someone called Portway and moved to the Tottenham area. I
have this fact from my 95-year-old aunt, who is a granddaughter of Mary and
a great-niece of Clara. She is a mine of information.
Grant
Let me know if you want me to give you the details to continue the line from
Mary down to the present day.Another EMail from Grant:
I can confirm it was Mary Bentall herself who died at Whitstable in 1932. Her second husband was present at the death. I don't know what became of him afterwards.Another Email from Grant:
Mary Bentall's second husband, who survived her, was James John William Law, who married her sometime after her first husband, Thomas William Emery, died in an accident at the age of 39 in August 1889. I don't know when Mary Bentall married her second husband. At some point she moved from Bethnal Green to Walthamstow and ran a corner shop. That may have been in the late 1890s. She was certainly married to James Law some of the time she was in Walthamstow, i.e. she didn't marry him while in retirement in Joy Lane, Whitstable. My guess is that she probably married James Law sometime in the early 1900s - but that's only a guess. I don't know what happened to James Law after Mary died in 1932.
Did she marry a widow, ie, was James Law a widow also, like herself??
Sources of information:
Certificates and personal knowledge of Jack Kendrew Bentall
1881 Census, Felsted
Dwelling: Cottage
Census Place: Felstead, Essex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341437 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1812 Folio 46 Page 21
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
David HOLMES M 37 M Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Ag Labr
Sarah A. HOLMES M 36 F Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Wife
David HOLMES 12 M Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Emma HOLMES 11 F Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
Edward HOLMES 8 M Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Jessie HOLMES 6 F Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
William HOLMES 4 M Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Henry HOLMES 2 M Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Son
John G. HOLMES 1 M Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Son
From Grant F Edwards:
Dear Brian,
>
>I was recently asked by Margaret Lee about the informant of Daniel Bentall's death at Causeway End in 1909. I see on Daniel's death certificate it is given as S.A.Bentall, daughter. If this is the case, it casts doubt on the marriage of Daniel's daughter Sarah Ann (5311) to David Holmes in 1867, since she was the only one of Daniel's daughters with those initials and by 1909 would have been S.A.Holmes. If married, she would have had no reason to give her maiden name on her father's death certificate.
>
>I wonder what the explanation is.
>
1867 Mary Ann Bentall, bap 9 Feb, dau of Sarah Ann Bentall, single woman
!1881 Census, Felsted
Dwelling: Cottage
Census Place: Felstead, Essex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341437 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1812 Folio 46 Page 21
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
David HOLMES M 37 M Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Ag Labr
Sarah A. HOLMES M 36 F Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Wife
David HOLMES 12 M Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Emma HOLMES 11 F Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
Edward HOLMES 8 M Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Jessie HOLMES 6 F Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
William HOLMES 4 M Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Henry HOLMES 2 M Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Son
John G. HOLMES 1 M Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Son
William and his family were living in 'Cottage', Felsted, Essex at the time of the 1881 Census (Ref RG11 1812 39 7).
!William was a Gardener.
!From the 1881 Census:
Dwelling: Cottage
Census Place: Felstead, Essex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341437 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1812 Folio 39 Page 7
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William BENTALL M 31 M Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Gardener
Sarah BENTALL M 30 F Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Wife
Jesse BENTALL 4 M Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Mary Ann BENTALL 2 F Felstead, Essex, England
Rel: Dau
from the 1891 Census:
PageID PersonID Civil Parish Full Name Gender Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
3137648 2828489 Chelmsford Arthur Claydon Male 3 1898 Essex Gt Baddow
3137648 2828484 Chelmsford George Claydon Male 38 1863 Blacksmith Essex Stebbing
3137648 2828486 Chelmsford George Claydon Male 10 1891 Essex Bocking
3137648 2828490 Chelmsford Eva Claydon Female 1 1900 Essex Widford
3137648 2828488 Chelmsford Emily Claydon Female 5 1896 Essex Gt Baddow
3137648 2828487 Chelmsford Robert Claydon Male 8 1893 Essex Rayleigh
3137648 2828485 Chelmsford Martha Claydon Female 40 1861 Essex Gt Waltham
3139399 2823088 Chelmsford Arthur Claydon Male 20 1881 Bricklayer Essex Danbury
her parents are Charles Little, and Mary Starr. their marriage is not on the IGI, neither Sarah, or any other children that there might have been.
from maurie:
Banns of the Church of England, Marriage at Great Canfield George Lodge X, 23, batchelor, laborer of Gt Canfield, father Peter Lodge, laborer Sarah Ann Little X, 19, spinster of Gt Canfield, father Charles Little, laborer Witnessed by Charles Little X, and Susan Fenell? X
IGI:
Eliza Fryer
Christening: 6 Oct 1805
Congregational or Independent, Wethersfield, Essex, England
F. Josh Fryer
M. Ann
Film #0593815
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