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Ancestors & Relations of Elsie Bentall of York

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James Bulmer-457

James was a Land Agent.


Thomas Bulmer-2476

An emaill from Paul Bulmer about the ancestry of this Thomas Bulmer:
Hi Brian Sorry not to have responded sooner, so busy at work at the moment havn,t had time to do much else. Been away to Durham and London this week so feeling a bit shattered. Will let you have details soon.

Marrick was a lead mining village and the Bulmer family lived there, on and off, for some time. Although they had a home there the mines were often "let out" to others to mine and the Bulmer family received a share of the profits without doing any actual work. The family also had other homes throughout the area, in Wilton etc.
A lot of problems with Marrick through the years, the land passed to various people in an attempt to avoid fines levied by the King in the hope that it would be returned to the family in due course. However, by about the early 17 hundreds the remaining land was finally sold and the family (what remained of them at Marrick) moved away. Some went to Startforth, some to York and in due course, some to the Rothwell area. By this time (in the main) the family had reduced from landowners etc to having to work for their livings. In those days the eldest son usually inherited and younger sons etc probably had to make their own way in life.
In the "glory" days of the Bulmer family younger sons would probably have a decent start in life. However, by the 17 hundreds they were probably reduced to Yeoman status and would move from place to place dependent on how they could earn their living. It is amazing just how much a family can change in a couple of generations. (I guess the Maxwell family realise that now!)
I will send details, but it might be better if I post them to you? If you let me have your address I will copy the papers I have. By the way I have a copy of the Irish lady's book, she was called Mary Hobson.

I received, following the death of a great aunt, a copy of a old and tatty family tree that showed the decent of my Bulmer family from the Startforth/Marrick area down to me great grandfather in Rothwell. This made my search easier. Not possible to say with absolute certainty that it is totally accurate however, because between 16 and 17 hundreds it becomes hard to find proof. However, the dates and names appear to fit with various sources. Will contact you again soon Regards Paul
!This connection is yet to be proved. Though the dates fit, there appears
!to be evidence which says that these are not the parents of Thomas who
!married Phyllis....Rats!
!I also have a note which states the following:
! Thomas Bulmer Died 6 Aug 1680, Barbara Bulmer, his wife Buried Dec 1670. They were buried in the Friends Burial Ground, Bishophill, York. (Quakers).
!Could this be a possible set of parents?
!Also I have a burial of a Thomas Bulmer, Tailor buried 20 Oct 1699 at St Michael Le Belfrey, York. There is no age given so I cannot tell which Thomas this burial belongs too.
!Also there is a Burial of a Barbara Bulmer 5 May 1660 at St Michael Le Belfrey, York.
There is also a James Bulmer, son of William Bullmer Christened at St Michael Le Belfrey, York, 17 Apr 1676. These are the first few Bulmers mentioned in the registers of St Michael Le Befrey, York, whose records began in 1653.


John Bentall-870

From the 1841 Census:
Felsted, Essex, England
LDS Family History Library Film #241369
Old Workhouse
John Bentall, age 60, Agricultural Labourer, born in county
Ann (Dennis) Bentall, age 60
James Bentall, age 27
Sarah Bentall, age 25
Jesse Bentall, age 20
Daniel Bentall, age 15
Mary Bentall, age 12


Harry Bentall-580

from the 1891 Census, Notes form Margaret Lee:
Garnets
Harry Bentall, head, mar, 29, ag lab, b Felsted
Ellen Bentall, wife, 27, b Felsted
John Bentall, son, b Felsted
Fred Bentall, son, b Great Dunmow
There is a discrepancy here.


Fred Bentall-1213

Was he born in Great Dunmow??


Percival Sainsbury-1206

Based on his wife's date of birth, no other evidence so far 13 Jun 2004


Robert Austin-598

His occupation was that of a Stonemason, and in the parish records of the
!christenings of his grandchildren, he was said to be 'of Oxford'.


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