From the 1891 Census RG 12 3764 Folio 146 page 23
64 Kassell St, Castleford
Bartlett, William Henry, 36, mar, Engine Tenter, born Forrest Dean, Gloucestershire
Bartlett, Edney, mar, 38, born Prince End, Staffordshire
Bartlett, Lemewell J, 13, unm, Glasshouse Labourer, Born Castleford
Bartlett, Elizabeth R, 9, unm, born Castleford
Bartlett, William H, 5, unm, Born Castleford
Bartlett, Miriam, 3, Born Castleford
Bartlett, Mary E, 4 months, Born CasltefordVisitors, also here at this time: RG 12 3764 Folio 146 Page 24:
Ralph, Jonah, 39, mar, Coalminer, Born Bristol, Gloucestershire
Ralph, Elizabeth, 38, Born Forrest Dean, Gloucestershire
Ralph, Edith, 8, Born Castleford
Ralph, Pricilla, 6, Born Castleford
Ralph, Harriett, 3, Born, Castleford
! Is this Elizabeth Ralph, the sister of William Henry Bartlett??? it does fit quite nicely.Elizabeth has looked through the Civil Marriage Indexes for the marriage of William and Edney. So far no match found. The years looked in are 1873 - 1878
!In the Family Bible, there is an Elizabeth mentioned , but no surname is given,There is a newspaper cutting which is undated as to its year of publication which says the folowing:
It would be interesting to see if there is a gravestone at the Lawnswood cemetery!
There are about 6 other children!
Keziah
Amelia
EdithA Possible Family??? Yes.
rom the 1881 Census:Dwelling: 62 Kassell St
Census Place: Castleford, York, England
Source: FHL Film 1342109 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4594 Folio 105 Page 27
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William BARTLOT U 32 M Castleford, York, England
Rel: Boarder (Head)
Occ: Coal Miner
Ednew BARTLOT U 24 F Cinderford, Gloucester, England
Rel: Boarder (Wife)
Manuel BARTLOT U 4 M Castleford, York, England
Rel: Boarder (Son)
Occ: ScholarI have yet to find anything concrete about Edney, though I am certain that she is from Cinderford, as no other evidence points to any other conclusion.
I cannot find any William Henry Batlett's born in YOrkshire at all. THere is one in London, and another at Farnham, in Surrey, but none in Yorkshire. It might be that the records for castleford, though they have been microfilmed, may not have been extrcted, so they need to be looked at to make sure. They are available at the Archives in Wakefiled.
!West Yorkshire Archives Service, Wakefield, call no.: D147/1/1-6, D147/2/1-7, D147/3/1-7, D147/4/1-8
The birth of Edney Preece appears in the St Catherine House Index (English Civil Registration) in the fourth quarter of 1858, in the district of Westbury, volume 6a, page 191. The death of Edney Bartlett, aged 66, appears in the third quarter of 1925 in the district of Hunslet, volume 9b, page 466. There is no reference to a marriage in the years 1874 to 1879 inclusive. Can explain how to obtain certificates if not familiar with the system.
there is a Kezia Barltett born in 3rd Quarter 1895 Pontefract Vol 9c Page 156. Is this our Kezia??
31 Jan 2004 also from Maxine Zaidman:
I have just been looking at your genealogy Web Site and have found a connection to you through Edney Preece. Her father John Preece is the brother of my ggg father Enos Preece. The family originally came from Upton Bishop near Hereford, but moved to Ruardean Hill (the highest point in the Forest of Dean ). John and his family seemed to have moved to Castleford in the later 1860's, Enos's son (also called Enos) and some other related Preeces also moved to Castleford in the 1890's.
Edney was born in Ruardean Hill, Gloucestershire (about 5 miles from Cinderford). I have 1851, 61, 81 and 1901 census centries for John's extended family and some other info - see attached word document. I think Edneys husband William H Bartlett came from Warwickshire.
I also noticed you think Johns's wife Elizabeth (d in 1901) was nee Nichols. I do think this is quite possible - there is a big family of Nicholls at Ruardean Hill, and Enos jnr married Mary Ann Nichols (they are all interelated in the Forest of Dean!). I also wonder whether Elizabeth Ralph who appears on the 1991 census is actually Edney's elder sister Elizabeth.
I have also previously come across someone else researching this family - a lady called Judith Sheldon - is she connected to you ? (she wouldn't elaborate her interest !)
Please do get in touch, and I can send you some more info about Johns brothers Enos, James and William. I would also love to know more about your branch, if you are willing.
Kind regards,
MaxineDwelling at Ruardean Hill
John PREECE Hd 24 Coal Miner b East Dean
Elizabeth PREECE Wife 26 b East Dean
Miriam PREECE Daur 7m b East Dean
Allen CHIVERS Wifes son 9 Scholar b East Dean2. From 1861 Census for East Dean Parish
Dwelling at Ruardean Hill
John PREECE Hd 35 Coal Miner b Upton Bishop, Hfd
Elizabeth PREECE wife 37 b East Dean
Allen PREECE son unm. 17 b Ruardean
Miriam PREECE daut 10 b East Dean
Elizabeth PREECE daut 8 b East Dean
Rebecca PREECE daut 4 b East Dean
Edney PREECE daut 2 b East Dean3. From 1881 Census for Castleford
Dwelling at 62 Kassell St.
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John PREECE Head M Male 54 Cinderford, Gloucester, England (Coal Miner)
Elizabeth PREECE Wife M Female 56 Cinderford, Gloucester, England
John PREECE Son U Male 19 Cinderford, Gloucester, England Glassblower
Martha STEVENS Daur U Female 7 Castleford, York, England Scholar
William BARTLOT Boarder (Head) U Male 32 Castleford, York, England Coal Miner
Ednew BARTLOT Boarder (Wife) U Female 24 Cinderford, Gloucester, England
Manuel BARTLOT Boarder (Son) U Male 4 Castleford, York, England Scholar
Source Information:
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4594 / 105
Page Number 274. From 1901 Census for Castleford
Dwelling at 62 Kassell St.
Henry Champion Hd 23 Coal miner b Somerset Radstock
Elizabeth Champion Wife 19 b. Castleford
Elizabeth Preece Grandmother 78 Widow b. NK Glouc.
Miriam Bartlett Sis-in-law13 b. Castleford
Renzia Bartlett Sis-in-law 5 b. Castleford
Source : PRO Census on Line RG13 pc 4305 fo 112 p18Dwelling at 11 St Anns Street
John PREECE Head 37 Glass Bottle Maker Worker b. Yorks Castleford
Charlotte PREECE Wife 39 b.Yorks Castleford
Florence PREECE Daur 16 b. Yorks Castleford
William PREECE Son 10 b. Yorks Castleford
Elizabeth PREECE Daughter 7 b. Yorks Castleford
John PEMBERTON Brother W 22 M Coal Hewer b. Yorks Castleford
Beatrice PREECE Daughter 15 b. Yorks Castleford
Source: PRO Census on Line RG13 4305 37 28 149Miscellaneous Dwellings
William Bartlett 46 Wark Birmingham Yorkshire Castleford Colliery Fan Engine Driver
Edoney Bartlett 44 Gloucesters N K Yorkshire Castleford
Ellinwell Bartlett 23 Yorks Castleford Yorkshire Castleford Coal Miner Hewer
William Bartlett 15 Yorks Castleford Yorkshire Castleford Coal Hurrier Underground
Mary Bartlett 10 Yorks Castleford Yorkshire Castleford
Amelia Bartlett 8 Yorks Castleford Yorkshire Castleford
Edith Bartlett 3 Yorks Castleford Yorkshire Castleford
Rebecca Bartlett 1 Yorks Castleford Yorkshire Castleford
Tom Bartlett 29 Yorks Newton Yorkshire Castleford Coal Miner Hewer
Lewesia Bartlett 3 Yorks Huddersfield Yorkshire Castleford
Alice Bartlett 1 Yorks Castleford Yorkshire Castleford
Sarah Bartlett 24 Yorks Castleford Yorkshire Castleford
Source: PRO Census online person search5. From Freebmd
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Marriages Mar 1885
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PREECE John Pontefract 9c 104
Pemberton Lottie Pontefract 9c 104
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Deaths Sep 1900
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PREECE John 76 Pontefract 9c 96
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Deaths Jun 1901
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Preece Elizabeth 76 Pontefract 9c 816. Death Notices in Yorkshire Newspapers
Preece, Elizabeth - 21 Apr 1901 - 76 - Kassell Street, Castleford - Pontefract and Castleford Express Pemberton, Martha Ellen - 28 Dec 1900 - ? - St Ann Street, Castleford - Pontefract and Castleford Express7. IGI Search
Births 1850
WILLIAM BARTLET
Christening: 16 JUN 1850 Oxhill, Warwick, England
Father: THOMAS BARTLET
Mother: HANNAH
Source:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C042461 1748 - 1812 0548384 Film 0933425 Film
C042461 1813 - 1875 0554766 Film NONEBirths 1852
WILLIAM HENRY BARTLETT
Christening: 14 MAR 1852 Alveston, Warwick, England
Father: WILLIAM BARTLETT Mother: MARY
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C039671 1813 - 1875 0559254 Film 0933397 FilmA possible family that might be related:
from the 1891 census:RG12/3764 Folio 71, page 21
Preece, John, 28, married, Glass bottle maker, born Gloucestershire
Preece, Charlotte, 28, married, born Staffordshire, (could be Trussell, as
in Acton Trussell..??)
Preece, Florence, 5, Born Castleford
Preece, William, 5 months, born Castleford
!From the 1891 Census,
!RG12 3764, Folio 146, page 23:
62 Kassell St, castleford
Preece, John, male, 64, Coalminer, Born Forrest Dean, Gloucerstershire
Preece, Elizabeth, female, 65, Born Forrest Dean, Gloucestershire
Jones, Edwin, 24, lodger, Buckley North Wales, Coalminer
Birkland, Mary, 24, lodger, Ecklington, Derbyshire (Or Eckington)
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!From the 1891 Census: RG 12 3764 Folio 146 Page 24:
64, Kassell St, Castleford
Bartlett, William Henry, 36, Engine Tenter, Born Forrest Dean,
Gloucestershire.
Bartlett, Edney, 32, born Prince end, Staffordshire
Bartlett, Lemewell J, male, 13, unm, Glasshouse Labourer, Born Castleford
Bartlett, Elizabeth R female, 9, unm, Born Castleford
Bartlett, William H, 5, born castleford
Bartlett, Miriam, 3, Born Castleford
Bartlett, Mary E, 4 months, born castleford
Visitor's at the same address, the wife, Elizabeth Ralph, may have been
William Henry bartlett's sister....
Ralph, Jonah, 39, Coalminer, Born Bristol, Gloucestershire
Ralph, Elizabeth, 38, Forrest Dean, Gloucestershire
Ralph, Edith, 8 , born Castleford
Ralph, Precilla, 6, born Castleford
Ralph, Harriett, 3, born CastelfordElizabeth has looked through the Civil Marriage Indexes for the marriage of
WIlliam and Edney. So far no match found. The years looked in are 1873 -
1878
!In the Family Bible, there is an Elizabeth mentioned , but no surname is
given,There is a newspaper cutting which is undated as to its year of publication
which says the folowing:It would be interesting to see if there is a gravestone at the Lawnswood
cemetery!There are about 6 other children!
Keziah
Amelia
EdithA Possible Family??? Yes.
rom the 1881 Census:Dwelling: 62 Kassell St
Census Place: Castleford, York, England
Source: FHL Film 1342109 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4594 Folio 105
Page 27
Marr Age Sex BirthplaceWilliam BARTLOT U 32 M Castleford, York, England
Rel: Boarder (Head)
Occ: Coal Miner
Ednew BARTLOT U 24 F Cinderford, Gloucester, England
Rel: Boarder (Wife)
Manuel BARTLOT U 4 M Castleford, York, England
Rel: Boarder (Son)
Occ: ScholarI have yet to find anything concrete about Edney, though I am certain that
she is from Cinderford, as no other evidence points to any other conclusion.
I cannot find any William Henry Bartlett's born in Yorkshire at all. There
is one in London, and another at Farnham, in Surrey, but none in Yorkshire.
It might be that the records for castleford, though they have been
microfilmed, may not have been extracted, so they need to be looked at to
make sure. They are available at the Archives in Wakefiled.
!West Yorkshire Archives Service, Wakefield, call no.: D147/1/1-6,
D147/2/1-7, D147/3/1-7, D147/4/1-8
On a scrap of card is the following:
Elizabeth daughter of John and Mary Nichols of this parish, Labourer.
A date is given, Nov 28 1827. Could this be a christening date??
This is the only person I could think of it belonging to.....
Did allen maintain the name of Chivers, or switch to Preece for the rest of his life, or was the entry as Preece due to his parents influence or simply the enumerator assuming that he was a Preece??
From an 'In Memoriam' Card:
Weep not dear Children butbe content,
For unto you I was but lent;
For Jesus thought it best
To dwell with Him above.Farewell, my weeping friend, farewell,
My dearest friend, adieu;
I hope ere long in heaven to dwell,
Then I will welcome you.